Premier Kathy Dunderdale
Verbatim Transcript from
media ‘scrum’
media ‘scrum’
Corner Brook, September 12,
2013
2013
“….I was at a Conference in Quebec
this weekend for two days with the six New England Governors who talked about
energy development…..particularly in Newfoundland and Labrador…they’re saying
develop, develop, develop, Governor Shulman is saying if you got the juice we
got the use so here are the people who are buying Canadian electricity saying
to Canadian Premiers develop, develop, develop because we got the markets….we
have just had six Governors purchase power for their states…they are talking
specifically about Muskrat Falls, specifically about Gull and how that power
needed to be developed and they had a use for the power in New England….the
Governors are saying there’s a market, we’ve been saying there’s a market for a
long time…”
this weekend for two days with the six New England Governors who talked about
energy development…..particularly in Newfoundland and Labrador…they’re saying
develop, develop, develop, Governor Shulman is saying if you got the juice we
got the use so here are the people who are buying Canadian electricity saying
to Canadian Premiers develop, develop, develop because we got the markets….we
have just had six Governors purchase power for their states…they are talking
specifically about Muskrat Falls, specifically about Gull and how that power
needed to be developed and they had a use for the power in New England….the
Governors are saying there’s a market, we’ve been saying there’s a market for a
long time…”
Comment:
There may be
a market, in New England, for electricity.
But, is development of the power commercially viable? Is this Province prepared to expose itself to
the construction risk and willing to heavily subsidize the cost of the power, as we are doing with
Muskrat? That, I believe, is exactly what the Premier is counselling.
a market, in New England, for electricity.
But, is development of the power commercially viable? Is this Province prepared to expose itself to
the construction risk and willing to heavily subsidize the cost of the power, as we are doing with
Muskrat? That, I believe, is exactly what the Premier is counselling.
Hopefully, you will draw your own conclusion, having read critical
information the Premier failed to share. Let’s start with a couple
of basic facts.
Note the
name “ISO New England”. This is a non-profit
regional electricity transmission organization that oversees “the day-to-day
reliable operation of New England’s bulk power generation and transmission
system (i.e. wholesale electricity markets)…” It publishes updates including forecasts
for electrical demand, prices and other information on an on-going basis, for
its own market.
name “ISO New England”. This is a non-profit
regional electricity transmission organization that oversees “the day-to-day
reliable operation of New England’s bulk power generation and transmission
system (i.e. wholesale electricity markets)…” It publishes updates including forecasts
for electrical demand, prices and other information on an on-going basis, for
its own market.
ISO New
England serves all the New England States.
Its Web Site states:
“…the wholesale electricity market establishes a price for… electricity by
matching supply and demand.…” . It does this on a three year forward basis.
England serves all the New England States.
Its Web Site states:
“…the wholesale electricity market establishes a price for… electricity by
matching supply and demand.…” . It does this on a three year forward basis.
What else
should you now? Muskrat Falls power will
cost 21.4 cents per KWh for generation + 14.7 cents per KWh for transmission to Soldier’s Pond, a total of 36.1 cents per KWh (based upon DG-2 estimates); we know that
costs increased in the DG-3 Estimate and there is still the matter of cost-overruns. The Government will subsidize those costs, in
the early years of production and increase them year over year, so as not to
give you “rate shock”. Only Nalcor knows the incremental
cost of Muskrat Falls energy as the DG3
data has never been made public. The cost of Muskrat power, just
cited, may even go up further depending upon the final deal with Emera.
should you now? Muskrat Falls power will
cost 21.4 cents per KWh for generation + 14.7 cents per KWh for transmission to Soldier’s Pond, a total of 36.1 cents per KWh (based upon DG-2 estimates); we know that
costs increased in the DG-3 Estimate and there is still the matter of cost-overruns. The Government will subsidize those costs, in
the early years of production and increase them year over year, so as not to
give you “rate shock”. Only Nalcor knows the incremental
cost of Muskrat Falls energy as the DG3
data has never been made public. The cost of Muskrat power, just
cited, may even go up further depending upon the final deal with Emera.
Against this
backdrop, this is the information that the Premier failed to share, with the
Media, in Corner Brook:
backdrop, this is the information that the Premier failed to share, with the
Media, in Corner Brook:
1.
Given
ISO New England’s mandate to match “supply
and demand”, the laws of this proposition dictate that the availability of more
produced power will favor the buyer of the electricity, not the seller. The “market” could care less about the cost
of production, so more electricity will only drive export prices down.
Given
ISO New England’s mandate to match “supply
and demand”, the laws of this proposition dictate that the availability of more
produced power will favor the buyer of the electricity, not the seller. The “market” could care less about the cost
of production, so more electricity will only drive export prices down.
2.
The
ISO New England organization
released a Study last month stating that investments in energy efficiency will
allow New England to use the same amount of electricity in 2021 that it
needed in 2012. That’s an 8 year forecast of no growth! Note the Black line in the Graphic below.
The
ISO New England organization
released a Study last month stating that investments in energy efficiency will
allow New England to use the same amount of electricity in 2021 that it
needed in 2012. That’s an 8 year forecast of no growth! Note the Black line in the Graphic below.
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| Source: ISO NEW ENGLAND |
3.
In New England, the average price of wholesale elecrtic energy fell 23% in 2012, from $46.68 per megawatt-hour (MWh) in 2011
to $36.09/MWh last year (that’s 3.6 cents per KWh). Further, the 2012 price was
almost 26% lower than the average price of $48.59/MWh (or 4.86 cents/KWh) set
in 2003, the year that competitive markets, in their current form, were
introduced in New England.
In New England, the average price of wholesale elecrtic energy fell 23% in 2012, from $46.68 per megawatt-hour (MWh) in 2011
to $36.09/MWh last year (that’s 3.6 cents per KWh). Further, the 2012 price was
almost 26% lower than the average price of $48.59/MWh (or 4.86 cents/KWh) set
in 2003, the year that competitive markets, in their current form, were
introduced in New England.
4.
A
CIBC Report on Emera’s recent purchase of three New England natural gas powered
generation facilities noted: “(t)he New England power market has been under
pressure since 2009 given low demand and weak pricing…the outlook calls for
only modest improvements. Furthermore, capacity pricing has been at floor
levels and could go lower if the capacity floor price is eliminated, as
expected.” (see chart on CIBC story)
A
CIBC Report on Emera’s recent purchase of three New England natural gas powered
generation facilities noted: “(t)he New England power market has been under
pressure since 2009 given low demand and weak pricing…the outlook calls for
only modest improvements. Furthermore, capacity pricing has been at floor
levels and could go lower if the capacity floor price is eliminated, as
expected.” (see chart on CIBC story)
5.
For
the purpose of providing an `out-of-New England` comparison, an Article on the ”New
Currents Blog” notes a New York Report, that energy prices have been the “lowest”
since the competitive market began 12 years ago. One of the reasons cited is
natural gas pricing and also “cheap imports from Ontario and Quebec“.
The average wholesale price, to New York, in 2012 was 4.3 cents per KWh.
For
the purpose of providing an `out-of-New England` comparison, an Article on the ”New
Currents Blog” notes a New York Report, that energy prices have been the “lowest”
since the competitive market began 12 years ago. One of the reasons cited is
natural gas pricing and also “cheap imports from Ontario and Quebec“.
The average wholesale price, to New York, in 2012 was 4.3 cents per KWh.
6.
Ontario
has so much power available that it has been “paying” Quebec and the American
states to “alleviate” the system. A CTV News story states “In total, $62 million was paid to the Bruce plant this
year to suppress electricity production.”
Ontario
has so much power available that it has been “paying” Quebec and the American
states to “alleviate” the system. A CTV News story states “In total, $62 million was paid to the Bruce plant this
year to suppress electricity production.”
7.
In
2011 Quebec’s revenue, from exported power, equalled 5.227 cents per KWh;
in 2012 it was 4.1 cents per KWh.
In
2011 Quebec’s revenue, from exported power, equalled 5.227 cents per KWh;
in 2012 it was 4.1 cents per KWh.
8.
The
Star news article noted that “As Quebec Bathes in Electricity Money goes down the drain”. The Paper noted
recently that Hydro Quebec, in 2011, had surplus power equal to 7.7 TWh (enough
to power 77 billion 100 watt light bulbs per hour); presently it is
constructing a 1550 Megawatt power plant on the Romaine River. It has closed a $500 million Bécancour
co-generation facility and is expected to be in surplus until at least 2023;
critics charge that it is irresponsible for HQ to develop more power.
The
Star news article noted that “As Quebec Bathes in Electricity Money goes down the drain”. The Paper noted
recently that Hydro Quebec, in 2011, had surplus power equal to 7.7 TWh (enough
to power 77 billion 100 watt light bulbs per hour); presently it is
constructing a 1550 Megawatt power plant on the Romaine River. It has closed a $500 million Bécancour
co-generation facility and is expected to be in surplus until at least 2023;
critics charge that it is irresponsible for HQ to develop more power.
9.
Vermont,
in a contract that began in November 2012, Hydro Quebec will be paid “about 6 cents per KWh“ for 225 Megawatts. The contract will run to 2038.
Vermont,
in a contract that began in November 2012, Hydro Quebec will be paid “about 6 cents per KWh“ for 225 Megawatts. The contract will run to 2038.
10. The New England Grid System is
regulated under the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) which
requires adherence to a reciprocal “Open” grid by sellers into the U.S.
market. Legislation, passed by the
Dunderdale Government last year, specifically Bill 61, closed the NL market to
electricity imports placing this Province in non-compliance with FERC rules.
regulated under the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) which
requires adherence to a reciprocal “Open” grid by sellers into the U.S.
market. Legislation, passed by the
Dunderdale Government last year, specifically Bill 61, closed the NL market to
electricity imports placing this Province in non-compliance with FERC rules.
11. Even if Newfoundland received the
same price for its electricity as Hydro Quebec contracted with Vermont it still
would not be a “net” price. Emera
agreements stipulate that Nalcor must pay Emera to wheel the power from the
Nova Scotia border into the U.S. This cost works out to be about 1 cent per kwh. Remember, Nalcor must sell to Emera (at NS
border), at ISO New England market rates minus the transmission costs. So in the
example above, if Power is selling for 5 cents in New England, we will only get
4 cents, even if they sell it in Nova Scotia. Emera can get the power it wants
at less than market rates (ISO New England minus transmission costs),
and anything they don’t want they can collect a fee from Nalcor…. Emera can
also shift a percentage of the over-runs, on the Maritime Link, over to us, too!!!
same price for its electricity as Hydro Quebec contracted with Vermont it still
would not be a “net” price. Emera
agreements stipulate that Nalcor must pay Emera to wheel the power from the
Nova Scotia border into the U.S. This cost works out to be about 1 cent per kwh. Remember, Nalcor must sell to Emera (at NS
border), at ISO New England market rates minus the transmission costs. So in the
example above, if Power is selling for 5 cents in New England, we will only get
4 cents, even if they sell it in Nova Scotia. Emera can get the power it wants
at less than market rates (ISO New England minus transmission costs),
and anything they don’t want they can collect a fee from Nalcor…. Emera can
also shift a percentage of the over-runs, on the Maritime Link, over to us, too!!!
When NL will
receive 3.5 cents to 4 cents per KWh for power, a mere fraction of current development and transmission costs, why is the Premier telling us
we need to “develop, develop, develop”? What
is her motive? What is the wisdom of developing more electricity NL
taxpayers will have to heavily subsidize for a market already characterized by
cut throat pricing, declining consumption and existing “cheap” Canadian power
from Ontario and Quebec?
The Research
cited is in the public domain and it is plentiful. It is as available to the Premier and her Administration,
and to Nalcor, just as it is to you and me.
cited is in the public domain and it is plentiful. It is as available to the Premier and her Administration,
and to Nalcor, just as it is to you and me.
Why would the Premier advocate ‘investments’ that
are ruinous to the Province`s finances, investments which make no sense in any real world context, that ordinary folk would write off as ‘crazy’ ? I don’t know.
But, I am certain that when Kathy Dunderdale takes such a hatchet to her own credibility, it is not hard to understand that its impact reflects heavily on the scale of her popularity.
the free trade agreements will put emera in a unique position. i'd say whatever is going on is tied to their value and investments w.r.t. the yet unseen #ceta arrangements, and perhaps even the #nafta precedent set on water which directly links to algonquin power (emera purchased algonquin recently and they own the run of river hydro facility at rattle brook (sister dam to star lake))….not everything in the abitibi expropriation was a 'mistake'.
This project needs to stop now. How can anyone with an education not see that something is very wrong with the entire way Nalcor is proceeding to spend public money. Is it corruption? Ignorance? Job creation? It's madness! In any event, you are doing great work Des and I wish some journalists could do the same instead of telling us about people losing their right to live in 5700 sf dream homes….
New England has already reduced electricity demand, by investing into customer efficiency programs, a reduction about the equivalent to MF output for the cost of 1.2 billion. Over the next 6 years their investment into efficiency will be equal to 5 more Muskrat Falls. By reducing wholesale electricity prices, it keeps retail prices from going up. And it keeps household costs lower by using less electricity. And we fail to do this here in a meaningful way. We are in the dark ages as far as adapting to new technology for heating our houses. My engineering estimate is that about 45 percent of our current electricity production is used here with inefficient systems, most with baseboard heaters, a technology that Coaker used in his house in 1917. Cheap to install, but we will pay the piper with MF to feed this obsolete type heaters. Hundreds of engineers here know that. Winston Adams
http://www.nalcorenergy.com/uploads/file/Volume%206%20(pages%202047%20-%202504).pdf
Des. Go to page 50 of the above link. Page 50 talks about the project economics from a July 2010 perspective. The total project costs are interesting, as well as the commentary about transmission access. I have yet to find any information on the Internet which outlined the cost of power delivered to nl and NS, prior to the deal being signed. this is the issue with regulated public utilities. They have a complete separation from basic economics that would drive any other industry, I am not sure people realized what this would cost prior to the deal being signed.
This is where the royal commission should start. the decision making from May to September 2010. this is when the current plan was launched… Come hell or high water.
Mr. Sullivan, it is difficult to know how well-informed the Premier is, but one can't help get the impression that her passion for this project is driven by something beyond mere logic. After all, you have presented a logical and cogent argument for why her assessment of power needs in New England is illogical and incoherent.
She is merely citing the same meaningless tripe uttered by Danny when this project was originally announced, despite a major energy shift in the past five years. One could have argued(weakly) for the development of MF back in 2009 but it quickly became evident that the original analysis and premise was badly flawed and the numbers were getting worse by the day.
Yet, the Premier and her colleagues maintained their bunker mentality and went to great extremes to stifle debate, ignore new evidence, and brand opposition as "trivial". Again, the proponents were left to craft a "spin" tale while mounting evidence pointed to the folly of the project. Time and time again, they had opportunities to pull back from the fiscal edge but simply refused to listen to reason. We are now at a critical juncture and there is still time to pull back…..but their bunker mentality prevents them from seeing the obvious.
Therefore, I am of the view that when the whole sorry mess becomes fully public, the Premier and her colleagues should be subjected to a Judicial Review. I strongly suspect that they will be found to have been guilty of gross negligence. Such findings may not result in any criminal charges but they will be convicted in the court of public opinion and will go down in history as having presided over the worst deal we have ever negotiated. Sadly for us, we will pay for their negligence and lack of proper oversight.
I am just happy to see that Kathy Dunderdale is responding to comments regarding this article on facebook. Nice to see you have her attention